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Allen Van Wert

Seventeen

This song features a killer guitar riff and amazing solo by guitarist Reb Beach. This is an advanced song, but don't let that discourage you. Take it slow and learn at your own pace.

Taught by Allen Van Wert in Songs With Allen seriesLength: 67:00Difficulty: 3.5 of 5


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danro1009danro1009 replied on December 29th, 2016

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME song and lesson. Reb Beach can spew out that ridiculously smooth flurry of notes with that amazing tapping technique. He's like a sonic machine gun. Allen you absolutely nailed this. What a great lesson, thank you.

shred1shred1 replied on April 28th, 2013

the 1st. tapping tab isn't what he is playing on video, makes it hard to learn-can you re-up more accurate tab for the solo?

einherjarjaceinherjarjac replied on April 16th, 2013

The tab on the solo is often different from what he is actually playing in the video... making this a pain to try to learn as I'm having to try to just copy his fingering.

einherjarjaceinherjarjac replied on April 16th, 2013

Oh but I'm in no way criticising. Great lesson.

shytigershytiger replied on April 9th, 2013

Great lesson. Would have taken me too long to figure out on my own. Just have to get the timing and speed down now. More of this genre would be great. How about XYZ...Inside Out. I would be interested in learning that lead solo.

raberauchtraberaucht replied on March 11th, 2013

Great lesson. Yeah, more classic rock lessons would be awesome! I'm a little confused about the supplemental notes when it comes to the tapping part of the solo which I'm trying to figure out at the moment. To me it seems like Allen is playing different stuff when he is playing the tapping slow (6:05 - 06:23 in Scene 6: Main Solo) than the notes say. Notes (last line on first page of the solo notes) go: 16 T18 14 16 14 \ 12 ... And to me it looks like Allen is playing: 16 T18 16 14 \ 12 ... But only on the slow stuff, I can't tell what he is playing when he's going fast... He's to fast! What do you think? What's the "right" way to play it?

allen.vanwertallen.vanwert replied on May 21st, 2013

Try it both ways and see! 8^)

oldpimpoldpimp replied on September 21st, 2012

I'd just like to say I like the little motivational speech in the intro video. I think that should be stressed more. It's not the equipment or surroundings as much as it is wanting to learn and practicing. Like I tell my nephew who I am teaching what I know, "There are no cheats for this."

guitarshred80sguitarshred80s replied on February 25th, 2013

Says right click and save as to download back tracks but doesnt work,how do i download the backing tracks..thanx.

guitarshred80sguitarshred80s replied on February 25th, 2013

boudin,your an idiot....80s music had guitar licks in it that none of todays posers could touch!!!!! I think your skinny jeans are cutting off your circulation!!!!

allen.vanwertallen.vanwert replied on September 23rd, 2012

YOU GOT IT!

boudinboudin replied on August 25th, 2012

Robot, how can you teach us any skill when we all know that hair metal sucks. They couldn't play their guitars and it was all power chords and penatonic minor. You need to play some difficult stuff like Motorhead or Slayer.

einherjarjaceinherjarjac replied on April 22nd, 2013

@Boudin, I have to say that this is much, much harder than Slayer. There isn't any phrasing at all in slayer solos. Just random atonal shredding. The first song I ever played straight through was Slayer's Die By The Sword when I was 14. I'm 30 now and am still having trouble getting this Winger solo to sound right.

laufeylaufey replied on May 26th, 2013

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'll be damned if anybody is gonna bad-mouth Slayer. Jeff and Kerry wrote some of the best riffs ever conceived. Here is the bottom line. Winger faded out and disappeared. Today they play mini tours and private gigs. Slayer is still headlining some of the biggest tours. Also, Kip Winger is an arrogant prick. Winger once said “Metallica couldn’t play what we play, they couldn’t do it, they literally-technically couldn’t do it” (“Kip,” n.d.). His statement is dead wrong. James and company can play whatever they want, they are that good. Kirk plays classical pieces all the time, to build his chops and for fun. Now that I have covered that, I like Reb, he is a talented guitarist. Everyone needs to remember that the skill needed to play any instrument is relative. What is difficult for one may be easy for another.

allen.vanwertallen.vanwert replied on September 3rd, 2012

You are incorrect, Hair metal had a wealth of skilled musicians. Slayer sounded sloppy to me and I am not well versed on Motorhead besides the singer with a large mole making weird voices while having the mic 2 feet higher than it needs to be and looking up into it all the time... I know sometimes it is easy to fall into the romanticism of imagery coming from the stage show of a metal band however, the hair metal lead guitarists were very skilled and had more hit songs/more success as musicians commercially. This brings up a huge argument so I tend to avoid using sales as a descriptor or value assessment of artistic expression. There are however, modern metal guitarists who are very good technically and also adding some great musicality into the leads. I have been really surprised lately when listening to the radio.

jetsparrow10jetsparrow10 replied on May 16th, 2012

Within the first 15 seconds, I was already grooving!! :D GREAT SONG

reganrawrreganrawr replied on February 23rd, 2012

Take a look at how Reb plays it. I get what your ear says. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPcIi_SSick

danro1009danro1009 replied on December 29th, 2016

Unfortunately this link is no longer good. The video was taken down due to a copyright dispute with Time Warner evidently

allen.vanwertallen.vanwert replied on September 3rd, 2012

He recently messaged a few times about one note being played differently in the intro/chorus riff. It is where he uses the pinky to stay on the same string instead of playing it on the upper string like I was in this video. Very slight difference but it was cool of him to mention it to me.

lucidiousgibslucidiousgibs replied on December 25th, 2011

Stuarts favorite band, this song reminds me of the stereotypical creepy uncle..lol but yeah the guitar is really good. thanks for the lesson allen.

souldksouldk replied on July 16th, 2011

can we get guitar pro tabs posted for this??

krptslayerkrptslayer replied on July 10th, 2011

i never admit to liking winger. But Reb Beach is awesome! Great lesson! Its hair metal btw

vkailvkail replied on June 21st, 2011

I KNOW. they should do baptized by fire!!!! but i wouldnt really call this classic rockits more like 80's glam metal.

joewillyjoewilly replied on June 10th, 2011

You blow me away Man. You got Skills.

raluenraluen replied on June 9th, 2011

Good stuff! I know what I'm going to be watching tonight now.

Nick.KellieNick.Kellie replied on June 9th, 2011

I love winger!!!

jboothjbooth replied on June 9th, 2011

Helllll yeah!

robabrobab replied on June 9th, 2011

Love all these classic rock lessons!!! Keep them coming!!

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About Allen Van Wert View Full Biography Allen Van Wert got the nickname "ROBOT" from his unusual guitar tapping techniques that often sound like a video game more than a guitar. He has studied and played a wide variety of genres. His experimental and eclectic amalgamation of music combining shred guitar, crazy tapping techniques, and electronically infused composition contrasted by a highly emotional soft melodic side, make his debut album a really fun and interesting listen for just about anyone.

Allen has recorded guitar for the famed video game soundtrack composer Jesper Kyd (Composer of Hitman, Splinter Cell and many other big title games) as well as composing and recording for movie trailers and TV commercials. He has also been producing, recording and co-writing for local artists in his small home/project studio.

His three books on guitar technique, ear training and songwriting have helped many students over the past couple of years. Allen has also played in various cover bands in many genres since the age of 16 and has played to over 5000 on a few occasions. He was a featured guest musician on the album "West Coast Shred Fest".

In his spare time, Allen programs video games for fun. Wooo!

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